May 23rd

 

Eod. die

 

Lauchlane Hay and Janet Speedy both in this parish were proclaimed pro primo

Rd yr marriage pannds

8th July 1736

 

Lauchlane Hay and Janet Speedy were married

Lachlan Hay

b: abt 1736

 

See below.

 

 

Margaret Hay

b: abt 24/4/1737

 

Margaret was christened in the parish of Forteviot on 24 APR 1737, with only her father named in the OPR entry, as Lachlan Hay (Source: OPR B 354/00 0010 0030 Forteviot):

April 24th Sab: Day

...

Also Lachlan Hay in Kirktown of Mailer his child baptized named Margaret

 

 

James Hay

b: abt 4/3/1739

 

James was christened in Aberdalgie parish on 4 MAR 1739 (Source: OPR B 323/00 0010 0236 Aberdalgie).

March 4th

 

Eod. Lauchlan Hay and Janet Speedie spouses in Woodhead of Aberdalgie had a child baptd called James witn the Congn

 

 

Janet Hay

b: abt 14/8/1741

 

Janet was christened in the parish of Aberdalgie on 14 AUG 1741 (Source: OPR B 323/00 0010 0238 Aberdalgie):

Augt 14th Lauchlan Hay and Janet Speedy spouses in bog of Sauchy a hild baptd called Janet wit: sevrale

 

 

Ann Hay

b: abt 6/7/1744

 

Ann was christened in Aberdalgie parish on 6 JUL 1744 (Source: OPR B 1744 323/00 0010 0242 Aberdalgie):

July 6th

...

Eod. Lauchlan Hay and Janet Speedy spouses in bog of Sauchy a child baptd called Ann 

 

 

Joseph Hay

b: abt 17/8/1746

 

Joseph was christened in Aberdalgie parish on 17 AUG 1746 (Source: OPR B 323/00 0010 0239 Aberdalgie):

Augt 17th

 

Lauhlan Hay and Janet Speedy spouses in Bog of Sauchey a child baptd called Joseph wtn ye congn

 

 

Jean Hay

b: 1771  c: 3/11/1771

 

Jean was born on her father's farm at Huntingtower, Tibbermore, Perthshire, Scotland, either at the end of October or early November 1771. From the parish records (OPR 395/1 Fr.229):

3rd Novr 1771

Lachan Hay in huntingtour and his spouse Sarah Straitton had child baptised called Jean.

 

At some stage towards the end of the 18th Century Jean moved with her family to the Craigie district of nearby Perth. The area being a weaver's district, it is no surprise that she ended up marrying a local weaver from Pomarium called John Young. The OPR register for the area recorded the wedding (OPR:387/21):

Perth the Seventeenth day of May One Thousand seven hundred and Ninety Six years Contracted John Young, Weaver in Pomaium in this Parish and Jean Hay residenter in Perth daughter to the Deceased Lauchlane Hay Farmer in the Town and Parish of Tibbermuir Parties both in this Parish Deacon John Penny. The Persons before named were regularly Proclaimed and Married the Twenty fourth day of May said year by the Reverend Mr. James Moody Minister of the Gospel in Perth.

The couple settled initially at Pomarium before moving to Carr's Croft before 1799. It is not known if Jean was formerly resident at carr's Croft and returning there with her new husband to rejoin the family, or whether this was the initial move to Carr's Croft. If the later, it may have been through Jean that her sister Christian, Calum's and Jamie's great great great great great grandmother, met her future husband William Paton, who was also resident in the small row of cottages.

 

A death record for either John or Jean could not be found after 1855, and so it is assumed that they both died before then. A check of the Perth burial registers held at the A. K. Bell Library should be able to confirm when and how both died.

 

 

CHILDREN of JOHN YOUNG and JEAN HAY:

Peter Stewart Young

b: 8/3/1797

 

Peter was born on March 8th 1797 as noted in the Perth birth register (OPR:387/12):

Pomarium Wednesday the Eight of March One Thousand seven hundred and Ninety seven was born Peter Stewart Young lawfull son to John Young Weaver in Pomarium and Jean Hay his spouse and Baptized the Twelfth day of March said year by Mr. David Sangster Minister of the Dissenting Congregation in Perth.

Peter grew up to become a cotton weaver and a salmon fisherman, and married Janet Crichton on November 24th 1832 (OPR:387/31):

Perth the Twenty Fourth of November One Thousand eight hundred and Thirty two years was Contracted Peter Young Weaver in the West Church Parish of Perth and Janet Crichton in the Parish of Kinnoull daughter to Thomas Crichton Weaver there ______Elder John Livingstone______the persons before named were regularly proclaimed and married.

It is believed that the couple only had one daughter, Mary, born in 1834.

 

Peter eventully died at Carr's Croft on November 15th 1857, aged 60. The cause was disease of the heart and lung as certified by Dr. David Scott, surgeon, who is noted as having last seen Peter on November 12th. Peter was buried at Wellshill Cemetery in Perth, as noted by John Farquharson. The informant to the Perth registrar on the 20th was Peter's son-in-law John Sutherland, resident in New Town, Perth (GROS:1857/387/1/600).

 

 

CHILDREN of PETER YOUNG and JANET CRICHTON:

Mary Young

b: 13/5/1834  d: 17/11/1907

 

Mary was born in Perth, Perthshire, Scotland, on May 13th 1834:

Carscroft West Church Parish Perth the Thirteenth day of May One thousand eight hundred and Thirty four was Born

Mary Young lawful Daughter to Peter Young Weaver in the said Parish and Janet Crichton his Spouse and Baptized the Eighteenth day of May said year by the Reverend Alexr Pringle, Minr of the United Association Congregation in Perth.

 

On January 15th 1855, at Perth, Mary married 32 year old marshallman John Sutherland, son of farmer Robert Sutherland, and born in the parish of Ely. Both Mary and John were resident at the time of the wedding at Carr's Croft. The witnesses were Agnes Stewart and Alexander Imrie, whilst the minister was the Reverend David Young, of Perth's United Presbyterian Church. The marriage was registered in Perth on the 18th (GROS:1855/387/1/12).  

 

The couple are currently only known to have had one daughter, Janet, born in 1868.

 

In the 1881 census, Mary was listed under her maiden name of Young at 58 South Street in Perth, and was described as a widow and a factory worker. Her 12 year old daughter Janet was also recorded as living with her, and was described as a scholar (GROS:1881/387/18/14).

 

Mary eventually died at 5pm on November 17th 1907, at 64 South Street, with her usual residence being 11 North Park, Perth. The cause was senile decay and a cerebral thrombosis, as certified by John H. Lyell. Her daughter, now listed as Janet Thomson, informed the registrar on the 18th (GROS:1907/387/536 Perth).

 

 

CHILDREN of MARY YOUNG and JOHN SUTHERLAND:

Janet Sutherland

b: 2/9/1868

 

Janet was born at 9am on September 2nd 1868 at Carr's Croft, Perth. Her father was listed as a coal merchant, and her mother informed the Perth registrar on the 21st (GROS:1868/387/00/638 Perth).

 

In the 1881 census, Janet was listed as a 12 year old scholar living with her mother at 58 South Street (GROS:1881/387/18/14 Perth).

 

On December 31st 1890, Janet married 28 year old carder John Thomson, son of deceased parents John Thomson (tailor), and Ann Milln. Janet was described as a 22 year old dyer's assistant, residing at 224 High Street, Perth, whilst John was living at 11 North Port, Perth. The witnesses to the wedding were Peter Low and Catherine Young, and the minister was the Reverend James MacNaughton of the Church of Scotland. The marriage was subsequently registerd in Perth on January 1st 1891 (GROS:1891/387/00/20 Perth).

 

In November 1907 Janet informed the registrar of her mother's death in Perth (GROS:1907/387/536).

 

 

James Young

b: 9/2/1799

 

James was born in Perth on February 9th 1799 as noted from the parish register (OPR:387/12):

Carscroft Saturday the Ninth day of February One Thousand seven hundred and Ninety nine was born James Young lawful son to John Young Weaver in Carscroft and Jean Hay his spouse and Baptized the Tenth day of February said year by Mr. David Sangster Minister of the Dissenting Congregation in Perth.

James grew up to become a weaver and married Margaret Stewart in 1831, the Perth West Church parish register recording the event (OPR: 387/31 Fr. 8031):

Perth the 28 day of March 1831 contracted

 

James Young Weaver in the West Church Parish of Perth and Margaret Stewart in said Parish Daughter to John Stewart Lawyer in the said Parish____ Elders Robert Grimmand____ The Persons before named were regularly proclaimed and married on the Fifteenth day of June said year by the Reverend David Young Minister of the United Associate Congregation.

Like many in his family, James worked both as a weaver and in the fish trade, most likely with salmon. He eventually died at 6.45pm on December 25th 1863 at 11 North Street Perth, where he was listed as a 64 year old fishmonger and widower of Margaret Stewart. His father was recorded as John Young, a hand loom weaver, whilst his mother was noted as Jane Hay, as opposed to Jean. The cause of death was gastric fever, as suffered for two months. James' son William Young, resident at Inchran Pier, informed the Perth registrar on the 26th (GROS: 1863/387/644/Perth).

 

 

CHILDREN of JAMES YOUNG and MARGARET STEWART:

John Young

b: 25/5/1832  d: 9/4/1865

 

John was born at Carr's Croft in Perth, Perthshire, Scotland on April 25th 1832:

West Church Parish Perth the Twenty fifth day of April Eighteen Hundred & Thirty two was born

John Young lawful son of James Young Fisher in said Parish and Margaret Stewart his Spouse and Baptized the sixth of May said year by the Rev. Dr. Pringle one of the Ministers of the United Associate Congregation Perth.

 

John married Margaret Smith, daughter of William Smith, and worked as a railway engine stoker. He died at 11.00pm on April 9th 1865 at the infirmary in Perth shortly after being involved in a rail accident which saw his legs crushed seven hours prior to his death. The death was certified by John L. Crombie, and the informat to the registrar was John's father-in-law, recorded as being resident at Orchard Nook, Perth. In the death entry, John's father James Young was noted as being a Tackman of Salmon Fishing, and deceased (GROS:1865/387/233/Perth).

 

The Scotsman newspaper from April 12th 1865 tells us what happened (p.3, col 3):

FATAL RAILWAY ACCIDENT AT PERTH.

 

On the arrival of the mail train from Aberdeen on Sunday afternoon, an accident occurred near to Perth General Station, which resulted in the death of an engine driver, named John Young. It appears that Young, who had come to Perth with the train, was in readiness to couple the engine and tender to the back part of the train, and, as  the engine approached, the poor man lost his balance and fell on one of the rails, and the wheels of both engine and tender passed over his legs, mangling them fearfully. The injured man was promptly taken to the Infirmary, but he had, by the time he had reached that institution, fallen so low from the loss of blood that amputation could not be attempted, and he lingered on for about seven hours, when he expired. Young, who was a man of very steady habits, and held in high respect by his fellow workmen, has left a widow and five...

 

[NB: Unfortunately the tail end of the digitised article was missing, so I'm not yet sure if he had five children or siblings or something completely different...]

 

 

 

 

William Young

b: 8/4/1834

 

William was born at Carr's Croft in Perth on April 8th 1834:

Cars Croft West Church Parish Perth the Eighth day of April One thousand eight hundred and Thirty four was born

William Young lawful Son to James Young Weaver in the said Parish and Margaret Stewart his Spouse and Baptized the Twentieth day of April said year by the Reverend Dr. Alexander Pringle Minr of the United Associate Congregation in Perth

 

William was later recorded as the informant for his father's death in 1863, and was recorded at this point as living at Inchran Pier (GROS:1863/387/644/Perth).

 

 

 

Janet Young

b: 28/5/1836

 

Janet was born on May 28th 1836 at Carr's Croft in Perth, Perthshire:

Cars Croft West Church Parish Perth the Eight day of May One thousand eight hundred and Thirty six was born

Janet Young lawful daughter to James Young Weaver in the said Parish and Margaret Stewart his Spouse and Baptized the Twenty fifth day of June said year by the Reverend David Young Minr of the United Associate Congregation in Perth.

It is believed that she died in infancy.

 

 

 

Helen Young

b: 13/2/1838

 

Helen was born at Carr's Croft on February 13th 1838 in Perth:

Cars Croft West Church Parish Perth the Thirteenth day of February One thousand eight hundred and Thirty eight years was born

Helen Young lawful daughter to James Young Weaver in the said Parish and Margaret Stewart his Spouse and Baptized the Eighteenth day of March said year by the Reverend Dr. Alexander Pringle Minr of the United Associate Congregation in Perth

 

 

 

James Mitchell Young

b: 19/1/1840

 

James was born on January 19th 1840 at Carr's Croft in Perth, Perthshire:

Carscroft West Church Parish Perth the Nineteenth day of January One thousand eight hundred and fourty years was born

James Mitchell Young lawful Son to James Young Weaver in the said Parish and Margaret Stewart his Spouse and Baptized the Twenty sixth day of January said year by the Reverend Dr. David Young Minr of the United Associate Congregation in Perth

 

 

 

Janet Young

b: 2/12/1841

 

Janet was born at Carr's Croft in Perth, Perthshire, on December 2nd 1841:

Carscroft West Church Parish Perth the second day of December One Thousand Eight Hundred & Fourty One years was born

Janet Young Lawful Daughter to James Young Weaver in the said Parish & Margaret Stewart his Spouse and Baptized the Fifth day of December said year by the Rev. Dr. David Young Minister of the North United Associate Synod in Perth.

 

 

Jane Young

b: 8/1844

 

Jane was born at North Port, Perth, on July 31st 1844:

North Port St. Pauls Parish Perth the Thirty First day of July One Thousand Eight Hundred & Fourty four years was Born

Jane Young Lawful Daughter to James Young Fisher in the said Parish & Margaret Stewart his Spouse and Baptized the Eighteenth day of August said year by the Rev. Dr. David Young Minister of the North United Associate Congregation in Perth.

 

 

 

Margaret Young

b: 1846

 

Margaret was born in Perth, Perthshire, on October or November 1846 and christened on November 15th (LDS AFN:2428-Z1T).

 

 

 

Catherine Young

b: 13/9/1801

 

Catherine was born on September 13th 1801 in Perth as noted in the parish register (OPR:387/13):

Cars Croft in this Parish Sabbath the Thirteenth day of September Eighteen hundred and one was born Catherine Young lawfull daughter to John Young Weaver in Cars Croft and Jean Hay his spouse and Baptized the Twentieth day of September said year by Mr. David Sangster Minister of the Dissenting Congregation in Perth.

Catherine went on to marry Andrew Henderson in April 1834, the parish register for Perth recording the event (OPR:387/31):

Perth the 28th day of April 1834 contracted

 

Andrew Henderson cooper in the Middle Parish of Perth and Catherine Young in the West Church Parish of Perth daughter to the late John Young Weaver there____ Elder John Kennedy____ The Persons before named were regularly proclaimed and married on the 28th day of April said year by the Reverend J. C. Kennedy Minister of the West Church Parish of Perth.

It is further believed that Andrew died not long after their wedding, for on September 7th 1836 Catherine is again listed as having married, this time to James Thomson MacRobie, with whom she went on to have a daughter and possibly a son.

 

 

CHILDREN of CATHERINE YOUNG and JAMES MacROBIE:

Jane Hay MacRobie

b: 24/11/1837

 

Jane was born in Perth, Perthshire, on November 24th 1837:

South Street, Middle Church Parish theTwenty fourth day of November One thousand eight hundred and Thirty seven was born

Jane Hay MacRobie lawful Daughter to James Thomson MacRobie Innkeeper in the said parish and Catherine Young his spouse and Baptized the Third day of December said year by the Reverend James Esdaile Minr of the East Church Parish of Perth.

 

Jane is later believed to have married Robert Howie on September 10th 1858 in Perth.

 

 

 

John Young MacRobie - unconfirmed

b: 1842

 

John was believed to have been baptised on September 28th 1842 in Newburgh, Fife.

 

 

 

 

John Young

b: 28/4/1804

 

John was born on April 28th 1804 in Perth as noted in the parish register (OPR:387/14):

Carscroft in this Parish Saturday the Twenty eight day of April Eighteen hundred and four was born John Young lawfull son to John Young Weaver in Carscroft and Jean Hay his spouse and Baptized the Twenty ninth day of April said year by the Reverend Mr. David Sangster Minister of the Dissenting Congregation in Perth.

John is known to have married Elizabeth 'Betsy' Keiller on December 7th 1838 (IGI), and to have had at least one son. 

 

John died a widower at 7.17pm on January 20th 1870 at Watergate, Perth, the cause being 'seneatus general break up of the constitution', as certified by George W. Absolon  [NB: This Dr. Absolon had a far more grisly task to perform four years earlier, having perfomed an autopsy on Calum's and Jamie's great great great great grandmother Janet Rogers, nee Henderson, after her brutal murder at Mount Stewart Farm]. The informant to the Perth registrar was John's sister, Margaret Young, resident at 65 Glover Street. Again, John's mother was noted as Jane Hay, rather than Jean (GROS:1870/387/58/Perth).

 

 

CHILDREN of JOHN YOUNG and BETSY KEILLER:

William Keiller Young

b: 9/2/1843

 

William was born at Carr's Croft in Perth, Perthshire, on February 9th 1843, and christened in the town three days later:

Carscroft West Church Parish the Ninth day of February One Thousand Eight Hundred and Fourty three years was born

William Keiller Young lawfull son to John Young Fisher in the Said Parish and Elizabeth Keiller his Spouse and Baptized the Twelfth day of February Said Year by the Reverend Mr. John Newlands Minister of the South United Associated Congregation in Perth.

 

William was noted in the 1871 census as being resident as a lodger at 9 Livingstone Place, Newington, Edinburgh. He was described as a 28 year old unmarried clerk in the Horning Office (?) at General Register House in Edinburgh (GROS:1871/685/05/94/5/p.17 Edinburgh City/Midlothian).

 

William tragically died the following year, on September 5th 1872, at Portobello Railway Station. The cause was disease of the heart, as certified by Dr. Rattray of Portobello, and the Procurator Fiscal J. Connell informed the registrar on the 16th. William's parents were not listed, though his middle name of Keillor and his age at 29 confirm him as the correct William Young (GROS:1872/684/01/89 Duddingston & Portobello).

 

 

 

Margaret Young

b: 26/8/1806

 

Margaret was born in Perth on August 26th 1806 in perth as noted in the parish register (OPR:387/14):

Carscroft in this Parish Tuesday the Twenty sixth day of August Eighteen hundred and Six was Born Margaret Young lawfull daughter to John Young Weaver in Carscroft and Jean Hay his spouse and Baptized the Fourteenth day of September said year by the Reverend Mr. Richard Black Minister of the Associated Congregation in Perth.

It would appear that if Margaret married, she may have done so late in life, as she was noted under her maiden name as the informant to her brother John's death at the Perth registrar's on January 22nd 1870, where she was recorded as residing at 65 Glover Street (GROS:1870/387/58/Perth).

 

 

 

 

Robert Young

b: 1/3/1812

 

Robert was born on March 1st 1812 in Perth as noted in the parish register (OPR:387/15):

Carscroft West Church Parish of Perth the First day of March One Thousand and eight hundred and twelve years was Born Robert Young lawful son of John Young Weaver in Carscroft and Jean Hay his spouse and Baptized the Twenty fourth day of March said year by Reverend Mr. James Andrew Seceder Minister.

Robert grew up to work as a salmon fisherman, most likely in the trade alongside his two uncles, William and John Paton, also resident at Carr's Croft. In 1835 he married to Helen Robb, the details being recorded in the Perth West Church parish register (OPR: 787/31):

Perth the 23rd day of January 1835 contracted

 

Robert Young fisher in the West Church Parish of Perth & Helen Robb in the Parish of Kinnoull daur to James Robb Gardner there____Elder  Alexander Brown____ the persons before named were regularly proclaimed on the Thirteenth day of February said year by the Reverend David Young minister of the United Associate Congregation Perth.

Robert was recorded in the 1841 census at Quarry Mill, Scone, as a 28 year old gamer, alongside his 24 year old wife Helen and four year old son James. In the 1851 census, Robert was noted as a salmon fisherman (entry at 387/00/4 still to be further checked).

 

It has not yet been established what became of Robert after this event.

 

 

CHILDREN of ROBERT YOUNG and HELEN ROBB:

James Young

b: 2/5/1837

 

James was born on May 2nd 1837 in Perth, Perthshire, Scotland, and christened five days later in the town (IGI).

 

James was later recorded in the 1841 census at Quarry Mill, Scone, as being four years of age (GROS:1841/394/A/1/Scone).

 

 

 

Christian Young

b: 1/1/1839 

 

Christian, named after her aunt Christian Hay, was born on January 1st 1839 in Scone, Perthshire, Scotland, and christened four days later on the 5th at the Associate Congregation church in Perth (IGI).

 

Christian was not recorded with her mother and father in the 1841 census, and may therefore have tragically died in infancy.

 

 

 

Jean Hay Young

b: 12/6/1843

 

Jean, named after her mother, was born June 12th 1843 in Scone, Perthshire, and christened six days later in Perth (IGI).